The Internet of Things or, “You Have Mail” from your fridge.

By on January 18, 2014 7:57:13 AM from JoeUser Forums JoeUser Forums

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Skynet? Nope. Even worse: Spamnet: You’re doomed to live and suffer.

Now we’re getting spammed by our appliances. If you remember, back in 2011 I wrote about possible infection via networked devices like printers which get driver updates via the internet.

Now, there has been a report (Proofpoint) of 750,000 spam emails being sent from a fridge and 100,000 compromised devices, including a smart t.v. So, Philly’s question (I believe in another article) was quite relevant.

If spam emails can be sent this way, malware infection can occur (and has) this way. In fact, Proofpoint proved that they can attack routers, media PCs and smart tv sets.

The take away is that these devices have very lax to no real security, but do have processors which act like self contained web servers that have lax passwords and are poorly configured.

So, from there, let’s go a bit further…to a “smart home”. While Apple and others are doing their billion dollar deals, no one’s giving much (if any) thought to security for the devices controlling thermostats, refrigerators, stoves…etc.

“The internet of things” is a term used to define the nonhuman users of the net: printers, stoves, t.v.s, fridges, etc. There are lots of these devices and there will be more. Not hard to imagine this as your phone gets more and more apps, and baby monitors connect via Skype, there are genuine privacy concerns which were expressed at CES 2014.

If you think all this is nonsense, take a look at what LG did despite people activating privacy settings! Of course, the stock reply is “The data collected is not personal.” I bet. You know who else is doing stuff like this.

Again I caution you folks to configure your routers for maximum security and your computers as well. Encrypt the data on your computers and make backups. Configure your devices with security in mind. Change the default passwords to secure/strong ones.

Predicting the next step? Your computer AND smart appliances/smart home being held ransom.

Source:

http://www.dailytech.com/Hackers+Use+Refrigerator+Other+Devices+to+Send+750000+Spam+Emails+/article34161.htm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25662006

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25042563

http://drjbhl.joeuser.com/article/413881/Are_Millions_of_Printers_and_other_devices_Open_to_Hacking

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January 18, 2014 9:34:33 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Sure glad I don't have all this crap, just the printer.

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January 18, 2014 11:03:28 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I think I'll get a spread somewhere in the next universe. This is getting ridiculous. 

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January 18, 2014 2:15:53 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

here's the thing.. whose network are those appliances using?

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January 18, 2014 8:09:57 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

That's just crazy, internet enabled household appliances.  For what purpose? 

The only thing I can think of is allowing folks to get even lazier: "We don't have to worry about going shopping this week, honey, so we can sit here and get fat in front of the TV.  I got the fridge to email the grocery store with a list of what we need.  The store will then debit our account, deliver it and put it away for us.?

Seriously, our lives are becoming more and more like the Jetsons' every day.  I mean, we already have robotic vacuum cleaners that come along behind and clean up after you... and garage doors that open automatically when you press an app on your phone just as you enter your driveway. 

It's madness, as in use it or lose it. 

I'm buggered up with arthritis and other ailments, but I still prefer to do things the manual way because it helps to keep me mobile to some extent.  Somebody recently saw me hobbling while mowing the lawns and suggested I get a ride-on mower, but I said: "Bugger that, I'm not entirely crippled.", and kept on going.  I figure that while I still can I will, and when I no longer can I'll pay somebody else to mow the lawns.

Hehe, all this technology talk reminds me of this....

"You have reached 555 666393, Fridge speaking.  The answering machine is whispering sweet nothings to the iPad at present, but if you leave your message slowly after the tone I will rearrange my fridge magnets accordingly and someone will get back to you".... beep, beep, beep.

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January 18, 2014 8:26:04 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Having grown up in the 50's this isn't quite what was shown to us as the future or maybe it was and we all laughed.   Come to think about it I find myself still laughing.  I wonder if this is the best we can do with our intelligence and technology.    

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January 18, 2014 10:00:54 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I grew up in the 50's and 60's and was amazed to see B&W television, much less coloured screens.  I was about 5 when my parents bought a B&W set, and that was like all my Christmases had come at once, watching things like: The Woodentops; Andy Pandy and the Flowerpot Men.  It was all amazing stuff, but kids of today take it all for granted and 'expect' entertainment to be laid on for them like it's a right rather than a privelege.

Shoot, we never had as much as a calculator when I was going to school, much less anything else, but today's kids are often loaded up with a smart phone, a tablet, a notebook AND a frickin' calculator which not only does math, physics equations and tell time, but tells them when their next toilet break is.  I'm all for kids getting an education, but frankly, I don't know that that's what they're getting anymore.

Quoting Philly0381,
I wonder if this is the best we can do with our intelligence and technology.

Same here!  I mean, I'm all for technology improving our quality of life, but when it replaces so much of what we once considered 'life', then it has become too prevelant/invasive and the race to find the next effort saving gizmo needs to end.  Shoot, I like new [PC] toys as much as the next guy, but at the end of the day, I just want a fridge that keeps my food and drink cool, nothing more.

However, If I could get my PC [downstairs] to communicate with the coffee machine [upstairs] to make me a nice cappucino and bring it to me... well I wouldn't say no to that.

 

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January 18, 2014 10:45:19 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I'm all for technology. I'm hoping someday soon we will have replicators, transporters, holodecks, and all of the medical technology you see in Star Trek.

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January 18, 2014 11:44:04 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

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January 19, 2014 8:05:51 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Hehe, WG, I'd be happy if'n I could just download one of those 3d printer images of Dolly parton... or of Christina Hendricks.

Either one would make me happy.

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January 19, 2014 8:32:33 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Visions of the future:

Year 2016......Location...home.

Wake up in morning. Place feet on floor, bedroom light comes on, touch sensitive button on floor. Stagger to living room. Put hand on wall to steady self. Living room light comes, touch sensitive button on wall. Stagger across living room, stub toe on chair, curse up a storm. Stub sensitive button on chair leg turns on kitchen light and coffee machine. Female robot voice on coffee machine says...rrrrr...click...coffee...ready...click...rrr. Cabinet door opens where coffee cups live. Coffee cup floats out, has tiny drone props. Sets down. Coffee pot floats on tiny drone props, pours coffee but overfills, glitch in programming. Cleanup bot activates and sops it up then burps, goes back into hiding. Fridge says milk is low, sends order out for more. Amazon drone makes delivery, breaks bottle, goes for more. Takes too long, milk is sour. Resident shoots drone. Frying pan flies to stove already lit. Fridge opens and eggs fly out on ting drone props. Eggs break but miss frying pan, another glitch in programming. Cleanup bot takes care of mess. Eggs skipped, fridge orders more. Amazon drone delivers more but they're turtle eggs. Resident shoots drone. Microwave activates, screams then self destructs. Fridge orders another. Amazon drone delivers another but can't lift it to fourth floor. Resident shoots this one too. Then whole house goes bonkers. Windows open and close, doors open then slam shut. Fridge does a two step in kitchen. Resident shoots fridge then turns on computer. Computer blows up and little balloons float out saying....You have been hacked. have a nice day.

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January 19, 2014 9:40:04 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Wow, even the lawn mowers are going to attack now?  (Stephen King reference).  I grew up in the 50s/60s.  I remember when fax machines were like a totally new thing.  Cell phones not invented - land lines only.  You do remember what a land line was, don't you?  Well, before you knew it, people used robo callers to call every number in a listing, and, upon getting an answer, playing a taped message (real tape, not a digital recording).  With this new fanged Fax machine came, yes, robo fax.  Spammers would set their fax up to dial every number in a list. When the line answering gave the hand shake sounds (like dial up modems... lol), it would send an unsolicited fax to the machine.  The receivers machine would happily print hard copies.  Expensive spam for the receiver.  One interesting story.  When the Russian standoff (post Gorbachev) between the legislature, and a faction of the military was happening, the military shut the phones down.  LOL, the other side used faxs with impunity .. on a separate set of lines, apparently. 

 

@uval  2016, home, almost sounds like a song!

@Kona I would love to see all the tech in Next gen created. But for me, even more important is to see the positive changes in human nature and prevailing cultural norms presented in that show.  Lets hope.

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January 19, 2014 4:46:06 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting ElanaAhova,
@Kona I would love to see all the tech in Next gen created. But for me, even more important is to see the positive changes in human nature and prevailing cultural norms presented in that show. Lets hope.

If we had all of the Star Trek tech I'm pretty sure we could get rid of wars, hunger, famine, and disease.

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January 19, 2014 4:52:47 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Quoting kona0197,


Quoting ElanaAhova, reply 11@Kona I would love to see all the tech in Next gen created. But for me, even more important is to see the positive changes in human nature and prevailing cultural norms presented in that show. Lets hope.

If we had all of the Star Trek tech I'm pretty sure we could get rid of wars, hunger, famine, and disease.

 

I really hope you are correct.  But what about those seeking power?

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January 19, 2014 4:55:03 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Quoting starkers,


Quoting Philly0381, reply 5 I wonder if this is the best we can do with our intelligence and technology.

However, If I could get my PC [downstairs] to communicate with the coffee machine [upstairs] to make me a nice cappucino and bring it to me... well I wouldn't say no to that.
 

Complete with coffee related spam?  (yum)

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January 19, 2014 5:10:21 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting ElanaAhova,
I really hope you are correct. But what about those seeking power?

How can anyone seek power when everyone in the world has their basic needs meet everyday for free?

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January 19, 2014 5:18:52 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

How about hijacking a thread?

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January 19, 2014 5:26:52 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I fail to see how I hijacked a thread. We are talking about future technology are we not? My apologies if my postings crossed a line, sorry.

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January 20, 2014 4:35:15 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Please accept my apology.  I am ignorant of the boundaries for discussions on these threads. I took a post about a high tech Fridge and TV being controlled my unauthorized outside forces and extended to to lawn mowers.  The lawn mower is a Stephen Kink reference. By bad, I apologize.    

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January 20, 2014 4:54:47 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

The OP wasn't about future tech, rather about protecting home networks...and lax security on the part of the OEMs.

Usually I'm pretty lax about it...but when no one relates to the OP, it's a bit upsetting.

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January 20, 2014 5:29:08 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Well sometimes a thread derails naturally because everything the OP was talking about has been discussed and they move on to a new subject.

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